You are using an out of date browser. Maybe Ill do another test with the chrono 10ft away and see if I get any difference in results, thanks. Appreciate the input. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS March Giveaway ***Taurus G3c***. Hell they even have chrono`s that mount right on the barrels of rifles these days. BrianEnos.com WARNING: If you are a newer reloader, you do not want to start out using this powder. I use Titegroup in my sig p320. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. Only time I used TG in 9mm it was 4.5grs. When you load this stuff, you better be focused on what you are doing, its not recommended for anyone that loads with many powders around, constantlys swapping powders. I want to be safe. As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. I thought one was supposed to be at least 10 feet away from the chronograph when measuring velocity. Loading Berry's Plated Handgun Bullets - Shooting Times Reply Quote. 9mm/38 Caliber 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder By looking4reloadingdeals December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber Share Followers 0 Reply to this topic Start new topic 513 Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Hello everyone, I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. Because it's a fast powder well suited to moderate-to-light recoil/PF loads, and because it is. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. This is my first time posting a link to a google sheets doc. Quickly he was attending weekly, monthly, and annual shoots, which included Nebraska state, USAYESS, and many more. Started at 3.8 but it would not cycle my guns correctly so had to up it. And by comparison the Lyman 49th shows titegroup at 4.0gr to 4.5gr max for the same Hornady XTP bullet. Need 9mm Titegroup 115gr JHP load data | Glock Talk I have spent a lot of time perusing through the 9mm Reloading section and it seems that most folks who are using 124gr FMJ & JHP bullets with Titegroup are loading their cases with 4.0gr to 4.2gr of powder. ABOUT CHAD: Chad is a world champion elk caller and two-time Eastern US Elk Calling Champion. There have been some top 10 ELR finishes as well but I dont remember the specifics. In Brians first full season, he achieved several top ten finishes, two regional match wins, and a 20thplace overall finish in the National Rifle League. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! On 1/7/2020 at 8:30 PM, looking4reloadingdeals said. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. After graduating college, Ryan moved to Tulsa, OK to take a position as a plastics engineer and in 2011 began shooting 3-Gun competitively. In cases like this 9mm I would use the start data for the next heavier slug if that was there. Powered by Invision Community. Sowhat about Titegroup and what do some cases look like? Powder is generally +/- 0.1 gr as it dropped using a Hornady powder drop on my Dillon xl650(although usually right at the listed charge). Loading 9mm RN with Titegroup data - Northeastshooters.com Forums Her assignments included Patrol, Street Crimes, Narcotics, and Gangs. 1.100 in. We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. I was intrigued with 3-Gun since, as a police officer, I relied on all three platforms at work. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. /wp-content/uploads/2016/08/HODGDON_LOGO_DARK.png, https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/titegroup_1_lb.jpg. Can't keep enough at the house. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Hmmm, I use the .40 cavity and get pretty consistent 4.5gn drops with Titegroup. Runs 100% reliable in everything, including 9mm AR and Beretta CX4 Storm. 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum Ball-Type Handloads. He still serves the NKCPD as a Range Officer volunteer today. I wonder why the difference. Both are off according to the newer data I am not afraid to pull them apart and use data that I can easily find and a powder that has more bullets listed for it. Berry's RN plated, 4.0gr Titegroup 1.143" OAL No issues running in STI Spartan, Glock 26,19,17 & 34 or my 9mm AR I put together with a NES YHM lower. FYI, when you think about it..even the amount of crimp can/will/could affect things. In Pistols and Revolvers.. Its makes your gun a somewhat heat machine. My name is Robert Brantley and I have been obsessed with precision rifle since 2007. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. You can find Ryan on Shooting Gallery on The Outdoor Channel, and Realtree.com. I shoot X-treme plated at 4.1 grains. It's for practice, not for competition. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. I am now loading 4.1 grains TG with OAL of 1.135 to 1.140 inches. LRN Manufacturer Hodgdon Powder Titegroup Bullet Diameter .356" C.O.L. 9 mm Luger - Published Manufacturer Loading Data. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . Looks like i will test some 4.0 and 4.2 as long as they stay below 1200. 4.2, 1.155 coal will work well. Starting Load Grains 4.9 Velocity (ft/s) 1,124 Pressure 28,800 PSI Maximum Load Grains 5.4 Velocity (ft/s) 1,209 Pressure 33,800 PSI Barrel Length: 4" Case: Winchester Primer: CCI 500, Small Pistol Trim Length: .750" Twist: 1:10" 115 GR. The loads highlighted in yellow are those that I found work best for me. Like many reloaders I ended up with 6 or 7 different powders for my pistols until I shot 5 rounds from each similar FPS loads from a bench. Skip this one, you can do better. I'll be firing it through either the Glock 19 or 43. MM thanks for that comment on the adjustable charge bar. Why do we load Titegroup and 124gr bullets hot? - 9mm/38 Caliber When we are sold out, we are sold out. It is our mission to encourage, organize, and support these efforts throughout Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. Through shooting, Zach has met many people in the shooting community. The larger permanent cavity may lead to faster blood loss. All but 2-3 of those are with handloadedammo. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. After serving his country, George spent 20 years serving his community as a police officer. Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. We will pass. Titegroup is a fantastic powder for 9mm and .45ACP. YMMV. We believe the 2nd Amendment is best defended through grass-roots organization, education, and advocacy centered around individual gun owners. Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. A lead bullet is a lead bullet as long as were talking a medium hardness. Better to be too careful than blow something up. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Todd is also a sought-after firearms instructor for military, law enforcement, and competitive shooters around the world. ABOUT MARSHA: Marsha is the co-host of Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha and is a Licensed Montana Professional Guide. PF is between 130-135 depending on gun. Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. Panel recommends more gun restrictions to lower military suicides, 12ga progressive reloader Ponsness Warren, (250) Hornady XTP 45 Cal 300gr Projectiles, Vintage Bushnell ScopeChief 22LR 4x scope. Brian moved back to Idaho, where he completed his bachelors degree in Business Finance at Albertsons College of Idaho. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, training, shows, accessories, classifieds, and more! She remains the only female to take home overall wins in national level precision rifle competitions when she won the 2016 NorCal Tactical Bolt Rifle Challenge and 2018 K&M Kahles Precision Rifle Competition. His proven expertise in firearm manipulation and shooting techniques has enhanced the skills of countless individuals and agencies. I'm thinken a 124 cast over 4.0 of titegroup has anyone tried that. Reloading Heavy Bullets in 9mm Luger - Shooting Times All I ever used was Bullseye powderlove it. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser settings before proceeding. The game hooked me, but I fell in love with the people! Since returning to competition on 2009, Dianna has earned a plethora of High Lady wins, including the 2013 and 2016 USPSA Ladies Open National Championship. I have the Hornady manual, but nothing about Titegroup in the manual for 9mm. Zach started attending national shoots in 2018, including Junior Worlds, Junior Olympics Nationals, and USAYESS Nationals. In 2016, she plans to lead a delegate of women to Capitol Hill in an effort to give legislators a face to put with gun owners. Loading 9mm RN with Titegroup data horsegoalie Apr 24, 2013 H horsegoalie Rating - 100% 6 0 0 Joined Sep 18, 2012 Messages 284 Likes 27 Apr 24, 2013 #1/11 I am starting a load with some Berry's 115gr RN plated bullets and Titegroup. What type of a load are you attempting to develope? The more inexpensive "competition" powder. Thank you for sharing Hodgdon Reloading data. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. She has a passion to introduce the shooting sports and showcase gun owners and the 2nd Amendment in a positive light. Nov 7, 2015. I usually use the data for lead bullets when i load plated ones. This made me wonder if it is a velocity issue, or a powder charge below 3.7gr issue since all these loads are for the same bullets. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. I dont think i would worry about it. Wish i could find it again. 1.100" Starting Load Grains 3.9 I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. I havent had a problem yet. Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. Jan 30, 2011 (Edited) I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. No Charges? Except that is going to be huge high pressure and very dangerous. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. In the last several years I have really focussed on the PRS, ELR, and NRL Hunter. For more information, go towww.P65Warnings.ca.gov. The Lyman 44th Edition has data for Bullseye, Red Dot, Unique and Herco for 158 grain cast lead bullets . Hmm, I thought it was 5ft. I use a Lee turret with the AutoDisk, and I'm finding that one cavity is at or lower than the recommended min charge, and the next cavity up is at or higher than the recommended max charge. They are impressed by the light recoil and how cheap it is compared to buying new AA shells for practice or matches. If you don't mind my asking, where did your recipe come from? I think someone posted that very information just yesterday. I have an old Lee maual, but it doesn't have any info on Titegroup. Not cast, but I have 4k 124gr Barry's plated over 4.0gr. I didn't use TG; it was Longshot (or WW452AA?) Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. Velocities taken at ~4-5 feet from barrel. A devoted husband and father, Jake has formal degrees in sports medicine and youth ministry. I consider the type of bullet. May 7, 2012 9mm 124 gr FMJ 1.15" COL 4.3 gr Titegroup (a little hot) Some take the caution a little farther than needed but really nothing wrong with that. Gaige Grosskreutz -- The Felon Shot By Kyle Rittenhouse. 115 gr xtreme load/col data? | Northeastshooters.com Forums In fact, Jake has compiled more wins than any other Shooter in the United States at national level Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League events during that span. All of them are asking their parents for shotshell presses now. At first I was a little leery when I could not find the exact bullet I wanted to use with the powder I was using. I didn't think I was moving that fast, I just didn't know that I couldn't use FMJ data for the Berry's bullets. He retired from the North Kansas City Police Department after tours through Patrol Division and the K-9 Narcotics Unit, with additional duties as the Department Armorer, SRT Unit Sniper, and Range Officer/Instructor. Keyboards and steering wheels bring out the absolute worst in people. A longtime resident of Virginia, Todd competes in over 16 different shooting disciplines (to include USPSA, 3-Gun, Steel Challenge, IDPA, Olympic Rapid Fire, Shotgun Shooting Sports). Retired LEO/Rangemaster, Glock armorer, pistol instructor, Endowment NRA member. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! He also placed second in the World Elk Calling competition. A plated bullet (Berry's, Rainier Ballistics) falls between the two. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. Would the hp OAL be the same as that of the RN? I have seen anything from 3.7-4.4 grains recommended. You say that now. Display as a link instead, From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. Hodgdon Titegroup: Quest for the Perfect 9mm Hand Load Part 10 So it is interesting that the starting 124gr load did not show a load for 900fps. "Given adequate penetration, a larger diameter bullet will have an edge in wounding effectiveness. Snake River PRS club has become his pride and joy with a dedication to growing the sport by recruiting and supporting new and youth shooters. This link will be updated as I continue to develop more loads and test them. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. JavaScript is disabled. . Hailing from the Kansas City-area, Jaclyn is a rifle shooter specializing in precision rifle shooting. 9mm load for 124gr with Titegroup - Northeastshooters.com Forums 124g berrys over 3.9g of titegroup 1.149 OAL. My M&P and G34 love the 115 and 124s, but the 147s won't group for crap in either gun with any load and I took it up to 3.9 which is pretty hot. I used data for 115gr FMJ because I thought that's what the Berry's bullets were. 3 grains? He was trained as an armorer in the US Army, where he spent six years as a Military Police Investigator. Probably saved me some money. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Hodgdon Titegroup | Hodgdon You need to get teh double disc kit. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. I got the adjustable charge bar for rifle loads and tried it out with titegroup and it did not work. After taking up competitive shooting in 2016, she, won the Precision Rifle Series Production division in 2017 with her Savage Stealth. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I was happy at 4.0 gr in M&P 9 and Sig p938. 9mm has a rather consistent 115gr OAL. LOL. 9mm Luger (9x19, Parabellum) Load Data: Favorite Handloads I was ordering my daughter an archery set and decided to order a Lee classic loader in 9mm. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. A top quality jacketed bullet is a top quality jacketed bullet. It's great for light target loads in revolvers but generates way too much pressure for mid-range loads or pistol loads Some powders that work much better are Power Pistol, BE86, or even the old standby . Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Walker loves waterfowl hunting with his black lab Pow. He play trumpet in the Junior High Band and I am an honor roll student at St. Pats. He volunteers as an alter sever at Mass on Sunday at church and is a member in the Civilian Airpatrol Program. Test gun is a HK P30L, which has about a 4.75" barrel. COAL are generally +/- 0.005" seated using Lee seating die. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. I've been shooting 4.0 grains of Titegroup with Berry's 124gr. I use 115 gr xtreme bullets mainly with titegroup but made up some loads recently with hp38/231. Todd is a competitive shooter and firearms instructor. Reloading is a personal responsibility and you must start low and work up and NEVER ASSUME. With velocities at 1046 to 1119. So I looked up the Titegroup load data and The 115 grain 9mm load data for LRN is only .5 grains less than the 230 grain 45ACP LRN. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. Ryan and Dianna continue to not only compete, but train and film all over the country. I just loaded 1000 124 grain plated bullets with 4.2 grains of Titegroup. The terrain in Southern Idaho often requires a hunter to be able to take shots at 400 yards and well beyond. containers. I've had good luck with 3.4gr of Titegroup with the 147fmj boolit. Starting at mid range up to max. Titegroup works very well for the load I am using on a wildcat. 2.8 gr. Shooter's Reference Load Data for 9 mm Luger In 1999, George opened GA Precision after apprenticing with three gunsmiths. was 1146fps. Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. looking4reloadingdeals I shot a lot of Sta-Ball 6.5 and it worked well beyond expectations. Nuff said. That will allow you to get a finer-tuned powder drop. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. with 125 Gr Blue Bullets. I'm hoping this data may help some others that are looking for some data with Titegroup powder. TiteGroup | Ruger Forum As an fyi, stay away from the 147gr berrys with titegroup. As with any load data posted on the internet, please start testing low and work your way up. In 2015, Ryan and Dianna traveled to over 36 events across the world, including Italy and New Zealand. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. He has also put together the first online Precision Rifle Training series of its kind, gaining viewers from all over the world on the JC Steel Targets website. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Thanks for your patience. Make an introduction to Jake and youll instantly receive a big grin and firm handshake. RCBS 9mm-125-RN-GC 123 TiteGroup 4.4 1045 129 . and 8 lb. JavaScript is disabled. JavaScript is disabled. A forum community dedicated to all 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. The 9mm Makarov and 9mm Luger velocities of 1,000 fps and 1,100 fps respectively were quite respectable, especially in the short-barreled SIG SAUER P365. Need to be careful with plated bullets because not all are created equal. When we say same bullet, same case, same primer, what we mean is each case/bullet/primer is weighed . Although her family hobby was horse shows and barrel racing, her father introduced her to USPSA in high school. Thanks guys. The gun to be used is a Sig M11-A1 9mm, 4" barrel, standard recoil spring. First for 9mm and now for 45ACP. Upload or insert images from URL. THR Group Project - PISTOL - Advanced Reloading Concepts and Discussions. So you are saying you found data specificly for Berry's plated & TG? Upgrade efforts paused for now. Again, plated & FMJ are NOT the same, close but not the same. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. I have looked at the factroy specs but I was looking for some input on loads that others use. During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DSbEZeGeToe2YIoHyMXMjO9Oyp_dvQEM7VJ3tqfdwg0/edit?usp=sharing. 4.2 of titegroup over a 124FMJ is my 9mm load. Many of these are 131-135 PF, which are plausible competition loads. As long as they cycle fine in your guns, you should be good to go. What is your favorite firearm to load for? Some of these loads are over manufacturer recommended maximums, DO NOT COPY or try! Then work up from there. Used Titegroup and a variety of different weight and mfg bullets. This section shows you A LOT of information about 9 MM powders and how they compete against each other using the same brass, same bullet, same OAL, same primer, same gun, same day, same conditions..the only thing that is different is the powder. This year my NRL Hunter has been with H-1000 and its incredible! Is this not a safe load? His last three years of service were spent at the 1st Marine Division Scout Sniper School as the Primary Marksmanship Instructor. A forum community dedicated to Carolina firearm owners and enthusiasts. The bullets I have available are 124gr/125gr plated and jacketed and 147gr plated.
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