Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation, State Agency: Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. I'm thinking Unique, but I'm not sure. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, Altor Pistols, P.O. So, youll need a .357 magnum firearm and a reloading press to really enjoy the cartridge. I have used Red Dot, Promo, W-231, HP-38, Titegroup, & Unique. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. If your looking for cast targets loads I run clays in 38spl with some variety of wad cutter. The armor piercing round was Jacketed bullets create a bit more wear on the bore, but its better than trying to wire brush out a bunch of lead build up. Hawaii Department of Land & Natural Resources, State Agency: NEI #200.358GC. with bullets weighing from 125-158 grains. Mike was nice enough to hook me up with some cases and 172gr LSWC bullets. Smokeless powder .38 Spl. Paul, I just looked at the online loading center for Hodgdon. I don't have any Titegroup right now or I would try it. If you hunt in predominantly tight spaces with shorter sight lines, a .357 lever rifle is a wonderful gun to carry all day. One powder for 38 and 357mag. This loading breaks 1,340 fps in my four-inch barrel Python. Its not exact practice, but it wont bankrupt you to shoot them weekly. They shoot very accurately out of my Model 586. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Please read, but do not attempt anything posted here without first seeking out safe and complete instruction. I'm assuming I can just use any 170 gr bullet data but want to make sure. The big advantage with the rifle is the fact it is not only easier to shoot at longer ranges but it also picks up significant muzzle velocity over a sixgun barrel. No purchase necessary. For plinking and target loads Hodgdon's Univeral Clay's w/regular small pistol primers has become my favorite. Commercial .38s make for light recoil, inexpensive .357 practice rounds. For hotter .357 Magnum loads, any of the Hornady 158-grain jacketed bullets (hollow points, flat points, and full metal jacket flat points) work superbly well with 15.7 . Contest open to U.S. residents only. Alaska Department of Fish & Game, State Agency: I also want to reload .38's with it. Back. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Throwingdown, May 26, 2009. 2205 isn't the best choice in handgun length barrels, where it shines is rifle length barrels.I use 2205 in 44 mag hunting load and 22 hornet, Ap70n in 32, 38, 9mm, 357 and 44 mag target loads. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. When tactical lights first came out, we all thought the 50 lumens they offered was astounding and could never get better. Contest void where prohibited by law. Delaware Division of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Hodgdon recommends lighter-than-usual powder charges for the 140 grain FTX. Unless one goes into abnormally dangerous areas or situations, many people, like me, are willing to sacrifice some power for day-to-day comfort. Theres load data for pretty much all of them in 38 special. For large game, the Hornady FTX projectiles reign supreme. Unique is a good powder to start with. Maine Department of Inland Fisheries & Wildlife, State Agency: John Wootters questions as to whether or not the .357 Magnum was a rifle cartridge is pretty much the same conclusion I came to many years ago. A shooter using the .357 must limit himself to broad-side shots on deer. Full copper plated bullets are a good idea for .357 loads instead of plain lead. Winchester 296/Hogdon H110 is a powder which cannot and must not be used for light metallic cartridge loads! and 8 lb. Historically .357 Mag. We dont always need full power loads and my more pleasant shooting loads are assembled with H4227. These are typically sports dominated by the 45 ACP and 44 Magnum. With Titegroup, say in 45ACP, you most likely could even put a triple charge in that case, I would be afraid of using it in any larger case. I use 4.2 grs. New York Department of Environmental Conservation, State Agency: .357 Magnum hunting loadout. The .38 Special has a Max pressure of 17,000 PSI whereas the .357 Magnum can go as high as 35,000 PSI. May not be the 'best' for all of them, but I've used it for .32 H&R Mag, 9mm, .38 Spl, .357 Mag, 45 ACP, and .45 Colt all with decent acceptable results. Bestseller No. No purchase necessary. Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks, State Agency: Find a book that lists loads for the bullet you will use. rickyd.41Mag said: HP 38/W231 is my most widely used powder. Reduced loads in those two can cause some undesirable issues. . Personally, it would never go into a semi auto that had a partially supported chamber, never. Trail Boss is an awesome powder for loading the 158 grain semiwadcutter to moderate magnum levels, retaining good performance and fun without inducing arthritis. But have used Power Pistol in .357 Sig. I just checked my powders, and I have way too much Bullseye, and only a fair amount of 2400. Classic Browning Light Twelve Auto-5 Review: Busting Clays With the Old Humpback Shotgun. Feb 15, 2017. Super clean burning. I'm a little OCD when it comes to reloading and just have to try everything so I can see what the differences are. But in those three disciplines, the .357s potential is going untapped, you could argue. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I am used to lighter bullets for 38 SC and 9 Major but I see most of the people use heavier bullets in .357? For most of my big-bore sixgun loads I use straight wheelweights for loads under 1,100 fps; however, with the smaller diameter .357 Magnum bullets I prefer a harder alloy and normally mix lead and type metal in equal amounts. I tried 2205 in a 9 3/4" Ruger Super Red Hawk and there was lots of unburnt powder, it . Teach them the truth, and let them sort thru the cobwebs of liberalism that have infested their minds. I have probably tried a little of every thing and I seem like Titegroup a little better than any other pistol powder that I have used. section of the Speer Reloading Manual Number 14 Cowboy Action Shooting .357 load. Sounds like things are going real good with the reloading, Chance. 3) Would it be more efficient to just buy components for my .357 handloading? Winchester Rifle Primers. It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. revolver barrel. If I was starting out to load a magnum pistol, like .357, .41, .44, or T/C/Ruger-Only .45 Colt, I'D want Alliant 2400 to learn on. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM February 2023, P.O. (Photo: Andy C). $36.52. These bullets have a cannelure. The 1:20 tests at 100, 200 and 300 yards proved that with a rifle length barrel, any commercially available bullet will . It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. Result of not working out is a kaboom and potential injury. If it's a hunting load or full power defense load your after, a slower powder designed for magnums will give you more versatility. The same cartridge and rifle can be used for predator control if you occasionally find the need to deal with marauding coyotes and like to keep a gun by the back door. H110 and Win 296 is the most common magnum loads for .357 Magnum. Basic Reloaders Manual (1996) Speer Reloading Manual, #12 Winchester 5.8 gr. of what some consider a forgotten Magnum! My most-used load these days in a .357 Magnum sixgun is the Lyman #358156GC bullet over 14.0 grains of #2400. Contest open to U.S. residents only. Deployed military should use stateside address. Subscribe To GUNS Magazine. (There are some loads for a 90 gr. In a pinch, the .38 Super can be fired through a .357 Mag, however that is not recommended on a . Contest void where prohibited by law. I'll be picking some up in 2 weeks. The Handgun Reloading In these, I like to load a 130 grain lead flat point bullet over a charge of 700X that shoots to point of aim. The Hornady 158 XTP-JHP over 15.5 grains of H110 is just under 1,600 fps in the Marlin and Rossi .357 leverguns. Florida Fish & Wildlife Conservation Commission, State Agency: Much cheaper to load your own. They are all determined experimentally. The Nylon 66, a relatively inexpensive rimfire with faux woodgrain, was the first successful synthetic-stock firearm. I have been reloading Can't seem to find any load data for these specific bullets. Great powder for the heaviest .357 Magnum, .41 Magnum and .44 Magnum loads. (158gr and heavier) All will do a very good job so pick the one that's made by the company you like best, look up the proper charges and load up . I do like H110 in the .357 and .44 in both the revolvers and the carbines. No soup can is safe. length article about the .357 Magnum can be found on the Handgun However, load them in the Henry Big Boy and we pick up 375 fps and 250 fps respectively. Although a lot of factory ammo for the .357 is loaded light in deference to all those 80 year old guns out there, a full power .357 S&W Mag with those light 125 grain bullets (remember, the cartridge was made for 158 grain bullets at a published velocity of 1500 f.p.s. Is a VERY GOOD powder for mid range .357 loads but would opt out on this one for hotter personal defense loads or hunting ammo . Because of Titegroup's density, the ONLY place I will use it is in 380 and below cartridges. For smaller game, Ive stuffed a 90-grain lead bullet into a case over a slight charge of Bullseye for a quiet, soft-shooting round that has taken many rabbits, squirrels and grouse by headshot. If you find your way down to Rod & Gun of New Bedford Sunday you can try some of my .38 loads. Here's what it's like to shoot this classic scattergun. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. I had Milt Morrison slick up the action and take the trigger back to 3-1/2 lbs. However, it gains right at 400 fps from the 18-1/2 Marlin 1894 and puts three shots in 3/4 at 45 yards. Both sports demand power and accuracy, so a combination of a heavy lead bullet, slow powder, and a longer barrel will be a benefit. Kentucky Department of Fish & Wildlife Resources, State Agency: The Hornady 140 grain FTX bullet is different from other 357 jacketed bullets a couple of important points need to be made right off: Cases will need to be trimmed to 1.240" instead of the usual 1.290". NRA Member..SWCA Member..Semi-Retired, But Not Dead Yet. 16 gauge. I'd like to shoot a few hundred rounds before I do that. For reduced power loads in the .357 I've had great success with accuracy from Trail boss. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. The .357 Magnum was developed as a joint effort between Smith & Wesson (S&W) and Winchester, and was formally introduced in 1935. Your trying to do what I was trying to do for a whole year. The company made its humble start in 1963in Gussago, Italywhen Giuseppe Pietta made a commitment to produce guns as authentic and true-to-original as possible. A forum community dedicated to Ruger firearm owners and enthusiasts. By signing up you agree to Guns.com's Dillon Precision 14400 38 Spl 357 Mag Pistol 3 Three Die Set Carbide Brand New. JavaScript is disabled. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (when required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. (Photo: Andy C). A series of targets John shot with the Marlin 1894, proving the accuracy Reloading Scale, Powder Scale for Reloading, 1500 Grains X . . Any thoughts? Snuffy. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. Like Jimbo said you'll do better with two powders than one. 2) Am I likely to shoot it more often than my .357s? I have been working up some loads for my 357's (686 6", 27 5", and 28 4") using Alliant Power Pro 300MP. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. Deployed military should use stateside address. particularly good practice ammunition and with 125 grain bullets shoot I highly recommend using 2 different powders to achieve the best results or those 2 very different rounds. Alliant Powder Smokeless Powders. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. No purchase necessary. It has great guns in current production, with various styles (you can even get a .357 magnum 1911!) Utah Division of Wildlife Resources, State Agency: They list Titegroup for .357 mag with a 158 gr XTP. It's awful hard to beat a powder like 296. AA#9 and a few others in the same burn rate range are . cast, but bullet is unstable and not be driven to a MV of 1005 fps by 8.8 grains of HS6 powder, or 1142 fps Wyoming Game & Fish Department, State Agency: Contest void where prohibited by law. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM April 2023, P.O. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. I dont worry about the power factor much because CAS threshold is so low, its not worth the tiny savings in recoil against having to compensate for a two inch high point of impact. With Sierras 158 JSP, 15.5 grains of H4227 is right at 1,380 fps and groups three shots well under 1 at 45 yards. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Deployed military should use stateside address. Securely hold 6 rounds of revolver ammunition and conveniently load two rounds at a time. Unique and Winchester 231 seem to be two common powders that show up under both calibers in the Hornady reloading manual. Minnesota Deptartment of Natural Resources, State Agency: Vihtavuori provides load data for .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .44 Special, .44 Magnum and .45 Colt. The reason my loads for the .357 Magnum levergun are the same as they are for the .357 Magnum sixgun is simply because the whole point is to be able to use the same load in both. It would be great if I could also use it for .44 mag and .44 special. Heavy Is Accurate. I have also used Unique with success on lighter loads, Bullseye, Red Dot and American Select didn't impress me for 357 but I didn't try too hard either. Clays, Universal, HP38, HS6 and H4895 are products of Hodgdon Powders. Where can we push the limit of a compact but powerful cartridge for competitions sake? The revolver has fallen out of favour in Bullseye but it still makes a great centrefire gun, and one of handgunnings most accurate loadsthe 148 grain hollow based wadcutter with Bullseye powdersaw most of its use here. I have found Winchester W231 Discussion: Universal and Unique are good for lighter bullets, but if you want For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I use 3.5 gr of Red Dot, and a 105 gr Lee SWC in .38 special cases for my Cowboy Action/Snub Nose Training/Plinking/New Shooter load. This same load is awesome in Marlin lever guns, but you might have to modify your bullet a bit depending on what you shoot; Ive seen some Ubertis that didnt care for the rounded flatpoint bullet profile. But for my money no other cartridge does as much as well as the .357 magnum. IMR TrailBoss are products of IMR (formerly DuPont) Powder Company. For any loads over 900 FPS, I suggest using a jacketed bullet. .357 Magnum factory grains of H110 powder will drive the 140 grain bullet to a MV of 1323 Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for DILLION CARBIDE 45 LONG COLT 3 DIE SET #14405 NOS RELOADING at the best online prices at eBay! 125 gr. John said in 1983, All in all, I wound up this research project considerably more impressed with the .357 Magnum as a rifle cartridge than I expected to be when I started out the little pistol round can deliver the goods in a rifle and more importantly, provide an awful lot of shooting fun per penny in the process. For my hunting / power loads , 2400. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. Posts: 3,825. The benefits of this are twofold. Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources, State Agency: The .357 Mag is one of the most flexible handgun rounds. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. Remington's Nylon 66 semi-automatic .22 LR rifles have grown from 1950s bargain buys to 21st century collectors darlings. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. 38 Special - +P 125 Grain SJHP - Remington HTP - 500 Rounds - Best Low Recoil 38 Special Ammo. This year, H&R announced an expansion of its AR-15 lineup, bringing additional "retro" models to the market, including a 9 mm Luger-chambered Colt SMG clone, an M16A2-styled rifle and the carbine-size 723. Here, I like to shoot a .357 magnum case loaded with a copper-plated 158 grain flat point projectile and a Bullseye charge calibrated to the gun to just make the power factor of 105. (I) Giveaway ends December 31, 2022. The powders that are considered "Magnum Powders" are: AA#9, Alliant 2400, W296/H110, both IMR & H4227, Ramshot Enforcer and VV N350. containers. IMR Smokeless Powder - Rifle. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. My friend the late John Wootters raised this question in an article from 1983 and even before this, in November 1982, Ken Waters published Pet Loads for the .357 Magnum Carbine.. My most-used load these days in a .357 Magnum sixgun is the Lyman #358156GC bullet over 14.0 grains of #2400. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. For plinking and target loads Hodgdon's Univeral Clay's w . (I) Giveaway ends March 31, 2023. ticket for many big game hunting applications and for defense in the Note: Hodgdon as of 2009 controls IMR and Winchester Powders. personal loads where noted. Follow the reloading manuals precisely. I have used 2400 for 357 but like it better for 44 Mag. Becoming one of my favorite powders for .32 and .38 revolvers. Safety Warning: Andy C is an experienced shooter and handloader. Ive sold plenty of others, because they dont see as much use. For midrange loads I use Power Pistol, and for full magnum loads I use 2400. For pure laughs, I love a heavy charge of W231 with a 130 grain lead bullet to produce a near-dusk fireball; but more serious recipes are certainly available. is 1235 fps and the ME is 535 ft. lbs. Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted. Is the .357 Magnum a rifle cartridge? upper mid, etc. I keep my loads to 1,100 FPS in the .357 magnum w/ cast bullets. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. amounts listed above (but not where it says start load), and work up to the ETA: Nevermind. Take it from a guy that chased for the holy grail of powder to do both well for over a yearjust buy two different powders. When you want to go up to heavier loads in the mag cases try IMR4227 or 2400. The bullet gets a clean kill without fragmenting. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. use hot loads). Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. Some manufacturers make the 148 grain hollow-based wadcutter, but theyre uncommon and expensiveand not tailored to your gun. Box 502795, San Diego, CA 92150-1377. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. I load this bullet over 13.0 grains of H110 and 12.0 grains of #2400. If the tolerances are close between minimum and maximum loads, imagine what the effect of different bullets might be. Optimal accuracy? Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. Massachusetts Division of Fisheries & Wildlife, State Agency: Any suggestions? Like Marc said, I'd want data specific to your bullet. Georgia Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: I have the Lyman reloading manual. "I'm not often right but I've never been wrong. An area where the .357 Magnum is under appreciated is hunting. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. It looks like anything over 950 fps is pretty much topping out the range for this revolver. 7, #2230, and #2460 are products of Accurate Arms Company WMR, 760, 748, 231, 296 and 540 are products of Winchester, Components Div. Any brand-Small Pistol (Magnum) Details. Location: Colorado, USA. Can you do it? It has shot superbly in S & W "N"-frames of 4, 5, and 6".. and also in a Marlin M1894SC .357Mag . Sounds like you used a standard primer. Cartridge Use & HistoryThe .357 Smith & Wesson Magnum, .357 S&W Magnum, .357 Magnum, or 933mmR as it is known in unofficial metric designation, is a smokeless powder cartridge with a .357-inch (9.07 mm) bullet diameter. Bullseye, 100% burnt at 2.56 inches of barrel length. Mine were tested with a 2 3/4" Ruger . The Browning was dropped in 1986 but the Marlin and Rossi remain and we also have the .357 Magnum available in both 1873 and 1892 Winchesters, the Henry Big Boy and for a while, Ruger even offered their bolt action, five-shot, stainless steel Model 77/357. Result of not working out is a kaboom and potential injury. If you want to download your .357 Magnum ammo 2400 is a better choice. The same thing happened 20 years later with the new .44 Magnum and the Winchester Model 1892, which had originally been chambered in .44-40. Full power .357 magnum loads out of a rifle can be fired all day with a satisfying thump and authoritative impact on reactive targets downrange. First time using lead cast bullets. A Cold War era classic with smooth lines, a legendary back story, and an exotic-sounding name, Beretta's Model 71 was definitely a mouse that roared. I highly recommend using 2 different powders to achieve the best results or those 2 very different rounds. not in popularity or usefulness. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. While the revolver divisions of IPSC and IDPA are dwindling in participation numbers, theyre extremely rewarding to focus on. Connecticut Department of Energy & Environmental Protection, State Agency: I'm looking for a really strong suggestion for two different loads. For a medium velocity load in .357 Magnum cases with 158-160 grain bullets at 1.58" OAL use these as minimum start loads and OK to increase a grain or so as needed to get best accuracy. The difference between the 158 and 180 grain bullets on the pins is remarkable. If you had 2400 or similar powder you would be set up perfect for magnum lead loads. There are now 25 states with so-called Constitutional carry and Florida appears to be approaching permitless carry, which translates to more citizens S&W Set The Bar For Magnum Handgun Performance 50 Years Ago. I have I can't claim to have developed these - just use them as my go to loads. Below, are three loaded rounds. I think I'll start with Unique.
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