MacDonald is not the only one who has a slush fund. Whoever ran the meeting should have taken steps to explain the pay increases, e.g., this is a cost-of-living adjustment consistent with what we have offered in the past, the committee decided to offer all employees an x% raise this year, nobody has had a raise in five years and it is overdue, this is consistent with experienced ministers in our area/denomination, the church is in sound financial shape. It was only upon double checking that I realized these are denominational SBC churches. Have you asked the London traffic cam seagulls to give you some hints? One might be tempted to think that the name of that site is mis-spelled perhaps the o does not belong there? Secret, Exorbitant and Ridiculous Salaries Copyright 2021 KPLC. Associate Vice President for Convention News. No need to block Bill (in my opinion) to defend me. Nick, why have the Spurs collapsed? I would like to know if I could find out what the salaries are. (the other) Lance: One of the MANY reasons we left The Village Church was when Josh Patterson, Chandlers BFF and executive elder for life, bought a 4,000 sq ft home on an acre in an nice area in Denton County. The Mt. I do hope in these comments there is a distinction made between celebrity/mega-church pastors and regular pastors. If youd like to see my churchs budget and compensation packages, all you have to do is attend a monthly business meeting and pick up a copy of the treasurers report! This is stuff going, in theory, to Gods work. Supporters of Scruggs, meanwhile, say that even if Lyons is sorry for his past, it would be a mistake to put him back in charge after a huge scandal that severely tarnished the convention's reputation. Surely his job is not more complex than those? The Associate Pastor of Ministries (APOM) is, before all other functions, a pastor with primary responsibility to the Gospel ministry. Im currently sitting on an incredible story of a pastors abuse of office. He was convicted a year later, and then resigned the next month as president of the convention. Youth Director. House is valued at almost $700,000. Due to the passing of our beloved Pastor, the Pastoral Search Committee is in the process of searching for new pastoral candidates. PDF Constitution and By-Laws - Progressive National Baptist Convention St. Johns Baptist Church has been in existence for 144 years. Well, there was one. Meeting in Dallas, Executive Committee trustees approved Floyds nomination by a vote of 68-1, according to Baptist Press, the SBCs official news service. TAYLORS, S.C. (BP)Recently, Jack Wilkerson, the Executive Committees vice president for business and finance, sent me his well-worded reply to a request for information from a dear brother in our convention. It was only upon double checking that I realized these are denominational SBC churches. This individual shall be one who is prepared and able to witness, visit, and demonstrate leadership capabilities. Like anything else, pastors provide a service. The extent to which they have gone to misuse the rules to hide their tracks shows how a charitable organization is first a charity to the private owners. Any . When a person would ask questions about our salary ( which was listed) I died inside. No Bible study recommended just pluck a verse here or there to help folks feel good about themselves and fix their lives. The convention was the convention -denominational home and platform . I am glad to hear that those who are in your church can obtain your salary information if they so desire. Sovereign Grace Ministries The salaries of Baptist Pastors in the US range from $10,193 to $271,999 , with a median salary of $48,872 . No, I would rather see them repent and live. National Missionary Baptist Convention of AmericaDr. She has received many accolades and honors including the Grace A. Cobb Missionary Award, The Michigan Chronicle Salute to First Ladies Award and the B.M.& E. State Convention Ushers Speakers Award. Again, IMHO (taken with a grain of salt), if/when change happens, it will be of God, and wonderful, unique (the enemy is a copy-cat) and the real deal, (again, of God). Download: Leighton, AL - Senior Pastor - Mount New Home Missionary Baptist Church, Download: Hickory, NC - Lead Pastor - Mt. From what I have read across the spectrum of news and analysis sites, you are correct. There may be a paradigm shift in the wind, with all due respect to the truly wonderful and faithful leaders, who are not in the game, so to speak. Anonymous: The list of mega churches makes one think that there are few in California. We should know pastors salaries and we should also know all of the financials publicly of all of these churches. In this and other matters of governance, the ruling elders (taken, of course, from active members) make a lot of the decisions, and it helps tremendously in holding the teaching elders (pastors) accountable to the church. To take those funds that have been sacrificially given and misuse them is an abomination to God on the part of the one who misuses Gods money. I pass at least two on the way to work every day (though on alternate routes) and can think of two or three others in my vicinity. One of two candidates vying for the post, Henry Lyons, a former president of the National Baptist Convention USA, Inc., who resigned from the post 10 years ago after being convicted of swindling more than $5.2 million from organization partners, filed a lawsuit seeking to stop the election on Sept. 8. 3. Baring an inheritance, how much they paid is a good indication of their salary (if the wife has a job outside the church and makes good money that would change things). I dont know why, but I have some suspicions. She received her early education in the Bessemer Public School System. Under the leadership of her Husband/Pastor, Rev. We are awaiting the opinion of an attorney.This one is going to be awkward and you, in particular, will understand why when I post the story. Very easy to say dont cringe its the right of the people. God often has little to do with staying or going, though my experience is that people become invested in a church in multiple ways, and are reluctant to part with their investment. He had powers that charlatans like MacDonald and MacArthur and Copeland could only dream of, because He was the real thing, when He spoke it wasnt worldly wisdom and slick marketing, it was the truth. The Associated Press reported Sept. 9 that District of Columbia Superior Court Judge Jeanette Clark denied two motions by Lyons that would have blocked the election, which takes place on Thursday of each year's annual session with results announced that evening. This would include the SBC entities, as its clear the original idea of churches working together for missions is no longer true of the SBC. Ah, the Dideka situation. Maybe its time to join the lurkers again. Can you give it to them? How is it then, brethren? She serves on the Executive Board of the Baptist Women of North America. Samuel Conner: That is indeed a thought-provoking interpretation, and so relevant to present and past practice. However, it may be difficult if you dont have skin in the game. Wade Burleson: Finally, in our church we have people who believe in the doctrine of election, people who believe in Wesleyen Arminianism, and full-blown universalists. In loving Jesus and His sheep, I have discovered that all of the fruits of the Holy Spirit can be found daily amongst His people, apart from the business/corporate church model. Please review the submission for detailed requirements or visit www.antioch-church.org/seniorpastor to apply. Day and night we are watching over your welfare. Folks also need to remember that I have an MBA so I understand that a pastor who lives in NYC may need more money than a person who lives in Mississippi. President - National Baptist Convention, USA Inc. Wade Burleson: . Check out how much he makes while acting like John the Baptist rebuking prosperity preachers. Dr. Jerry Young was elected president of the National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc. on September 4, 2014 during the 134th Annual Session, held in New Orleans, LA. (I mean, he kept a list and tried to get us fired multiple times) He totaled not only the salary for us, the secretary, and the part time youth minister, but also the people who mowed the lawn, the woman who sometimes cleaned the building, plus extra money set aside for raises and a youth intern we didnt have. But the world, at least in the shape of the powerful and influential visible churches, still doesnt like him. Specifically, the Pastor of Youth and Young Adults is responsible for middle & high school, and young adult members and their spiritual needs. Headless Unicorn Guy: Megas are like Casinos; they tend to crowd out or starve out a lot of the smaller churches/businesses. He and I disagree on our perspectives of the problem of evil. C.P. Jean Jones Sis. So, amid the abuse there are many churches that seek to compensate pastors on a scale that reflects the area they serve. Paul who said to the church at Corinth I will not be a burden to you, because what I want is not your possessions but you. 2 Cor 12:14. CEO pay seems absurdly high (and this in spite of academic studies that find that there is no correlation between business CEO compensation and measurable outcomes in the businesses they oversee), but these companies generate plenty of cash flow, and the corporate boards are happy to send large amounts of that to to the corporate officers. Generally, the more transparency, the better. The 21st century church is in a mess on several fronts. Churches many times will say, if you want a break down of all the salaries, (usually all salaries are lumped into a total figure on the annual finance report) just ask us, and we will provide. Im not saying that IS the truth, but its almost certainly closer to it than what Robert Morris, the pampered affluent Breck girl with the several hundred dollar hairdos, teaches. How can an associate minister, or whatever he is, afford that? Applications will be accepted untl the position is filled. Youre right in the larger sense, just not the strictly legal one. What a daft generalisation! The way I see it, God may not be found inside these organizations any more than outside them. Go to his blog and ask him directly. Then again, clergy in most churches Ive attended have been humble, hard working, and skilled.