#1 Tobble 11. "Safety is our highest priority, and we fully support the FAA's direction," the airline told The New York Times. And PMDG has done a good job at leaving a good first impression. available from Boeing. Surprising, but its a fact. 1) SIGN YOUR POSTS. WebPMDG Failure Name in FMC: PRESSURIZATION -> PRESSURE HULL INTEGRITY Note 1: Trigger this failure above 14,000 feet Note 2: The Cabin Altitude warning horn is your I stoppped the first flight and later did another that went the same way. But the thing that really amused me slightly was RSRs explanation for why the throttle quadrant was left out: He said it was due to lack of time. WebHow to align irs and fix cabin altitude warning (Zibo b738) - YouTube 0:00 / 3:06 How to align irs and fix cabin altitude warning (Zibo b738) FSimSpotter 5 subscribers 2.7K I don't think those will cause the horn to go off. As a result of this, the A pillar in these airplanes is more inclined, and the bulge does not remind me as much of the nose of my former Latin teacher as the one in the PMDG. Check your pressurization panel. But that usually takes a bit of effort, and many simmers still shy away from that. You can keep APU BLEED ON until 17,000ft to be usable but you do need BOTH PACKS ON AUTO and BLEED PACKS AIR ON AUTO. To read their verdict, click read more. The usability of the FMC on multi-monitor systems is bad to put it mildly. In the final evaluation, though, my opinion is that the NGX is still comparable to other complex aircraft add-ons. Holger: Frank, who recently wrote the review for the DA-20 Katana, pointed out the cockpit crew animations to me. His task will be to chair this review and formulate the final verdict. Obviously, George also has problems from time to time with leveling off exactly at a given altitude or predicting a descent point precisely. Non related things I saw : Your off schedule descent is telling you, you never reached that altitude. In cases such as these, this also applies to vertical navigation, where a target speed sometimes does not behave the way it should. Webboeing, table 2 boeing the boeing company, 747 441 operations manual narod ru, eicas cabin altitude controllable flight, boeing 757 200 300 rev 30 federal aviation administration, qualitywings simulations ultimate 757 collection, 757 eicas pptx powerpoint vdocuments mx, serious incident smartcockpit, boeing 757 eicas manual jadschildrencenter org Maybe a NEWB mode that prints it out? There is no question: PMDG has set a milestone in the history of Microsoft Flight Simulator! They were set to 38000ft cruise alt and 150ft landing alt on both occasions. All of the various equipment and setup variants are also controlled via the CDU this is intuitive, and changes are made at once. But it doesnt do us this favour; instead, the engine spools down to zero quite calmly, which may be much more pleasant from a flyability point of view but does not correspond to reality. Oskar Wagner was a Captain with a large Swiss airline for many years, flying a large variety of types, and he also worked as a Fokker company test pilot flying new aircraft in preparation for delivery. The Boeing 737-800 and -900 simply look incredibly good, too! Highly integrated exterior, interior cabin and flight deck sound environments. The FAA said in the order Thursday that if both switches failed, the warning system would not activate if the cabin altitude exceeded 10,000 feet at which point oxygen levels on board could become dangerously low and cause flight crews to lose consciousness, it said. PMDG has currently released the third hotfix for this issue, but some users continue to experience problems. The investment has been worthwhile; with very high display settings, MyTraffic, ActiveSkyEvolution and REX2 clouds, the PMDG flies absolutely fluidly at a Mega airport with a good 20+x fps; at the gate, frames may dip to 12-15 on occasion. The aircraft they have delivered this time round, however, is really quite beautiful and modelled in great detail; it even features a cabin that is visible from the external view, which is not really typical for PMDG. You will find the signature editor on the ACCOUNT tab, about half way down the page. . Nothing to do with the ALT horn going off Paul. Holger: I bought a new computer only three weeks ago. Even a few years ago, flight instructors in airliner flight schools would have shaken their heads at the mere thought. To date, PMDG has not necessarily been known for eye candy; an accurate rating for the external models of previous years might be solid work. Stefan: Well, in direct comparison with other 737 NG implementations I have to say that overall, the VC in those implementations is noticeably lower, making the view through the forward window less high and wider. They are normally turned off for take-off (because they use bleed air which in turn reduces engine power) but have to be turned on after take-off, otherwise the cabin cannot be pressurized. IRL, a cabin altitude alarm is something you want to address quickly and correctly. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. This really applies to all of the working space of the captain. In the PMDG, the whole panel is somehow less wide, everything in the VC seems more confined. Do you have a link to the manual? The FAA requires every airplane with a pressurized cabin to include a system that warns the flight crew of cabin depressurization. He will tell us how realistic PMDG has managed to make the systems simulation of the 737 NG. What is your impression of flying the Bobby? <>>> The basic concept takes some getting used to at first but should for the most part be familiar from previous PMDG products (particularly the MD-11). Should the autopilot control be realistic or simplified? Stefan: Youre completely right. endobj Movieman162, January 8, 2012 in PMDG 737NGX | 737NGXu, HiI have just done two flight in the 737-800NGX Winglets aircraft and on both at one point or another in climb i got the cabin altitude warning horn. Have fun! Includes the the 737-900ER in passenger configuration with both blended winglets and split scimitar winglet configurations. AVSIM Online - Simming's Premier Resource! But lets get back to the core topic of complexity for a moment: Do I have to be an expert to fly the 737 NGX within the boundaries of the Normal Procedures? PMDG Simulations Official youTube content to aide new PMDG 737 pilots in getting the most from their purchase. To me, the 737 NGX is by far the best and most innovative and so the most significant aircraft add-on in a long time. This page was generated at 03:28. <> Our reviewers Oskar Wagner, Dr. Stefan Benzinger und Holger Kistermann have taken a closer look at the Boeing 737-800 / -900. Its great that this is possible today. Having the isolation valve in open instead of auto certainly wouldn't do it; neither would climbing 1,000ft above your set cruise altitude. Also in the case are eight GB of memory and an Nvidia GeForce 570. The bottom line is that PMDG has released a truly excellent product! I have to say, though, that I dont have any real aircraft experience to compare to, nor do I have the time to climb into one of the fixed-based simulators in my vicinity. Each Boeing plane has two pressure switches on board as a safeguard in case one fails, following a 2012 FAA mandate. Let me put it like this: The NGX autopilot makes about the same errors as a real autopilot and to a degree that is definitely justifiable and does not to be corrected. Stay tuned! Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. In the first few days after the release, there were also some slightly disappointed comments from time to time. All of this runs under Win7 64-bit. Another point that definitely deserves a positive mention: All of the load management passengers, cargo and fuel, including the correct distribution across the aircraft is carried out from the cockpit via the CDU. Honeywell or Collins MCP? The aerodynamic purpose of this is not quite clear to me, but it is definitely beautiful to watch. The US aviation watchdog has instructed airlines to inspect a pair of pressure switches found on all Boeing 737 airplanes over concerns that their failure could cause onboard oxygen levels to fall dangerously low. A marketing and sales director in real life, he is also a beta tester and project consultant and has been with simFlight for ages. Just two questions: what do T/C and T/D mean in the plan map? It has already been decided that, in addition the Boeing 737-800 and -900 reviewed here, there will be an update at a later date containing the -600 and -700, the two shorter variants. Provided, that is, that they have suitably powerful hardware. It is clear that PMDG has given a lot of thought to this area, and this has resulted in a first-class interaction concept. After all not all use VC or single monitor. This is already complex enough but can be carried out flawlessly with the present add-on. And of course this entails that you need to obtain the necessary documents and work them through. A reload of the aircraft is not required, which can save a huge amount of time. All rights reserved. Holger: Sound is an aspect that should not be neglected after all, it accompanies us from the first click on the panel to the completion of the flight though we are usually unconscious of it. Oski: I would indeed make this recommendation in those cases where this experience has been gained with older FS aircraft. % But these are minor points, and moreover they depend on subjective perception. Giuseppe Nelva We start a release, the DHC-1 Chipmunk, which was launched by Aeroplane Heaven. Rigid body physics for wing and tail surfaces. This New Generation has a few years under its belt now, and the overhead panel really doesnt look exactly super-modern to put it mildly. You need to set the outflow valve to auto. Here, at least, there are no wrong entries, but the procedures themselves are flown very imprecisely. There is an Alt horn shut-off button its on one of the pressurization panels, if you press that one you will get rid of the alarm sound for the rest of the flight. The concept is explained extensively in the documentation and has even been improved over previous products (MD-11, Jetstream). But it is only natural that the cooperation with Boeing which has been stressed time and again and the use of original plans and blueprints should also have its effects here, and not only on systems depth. The PMDG Boeing 737 NGX does have a few flaws, but they do not detract from the general impression. Also set the altitude of the airport your landing at. Oski: Well, its always a bit difficult to judge the sound on a PC. You can probably tell that many of these questions will not interest most virtual Boeing captains, who follow the motto: Can I use this to recreate my last summer holiday flight or not? But those who have knowledge of the subject matter and know what the different configuration options mean will find great satisfaction in them. But they do occur: In the PMDG forums, more than a few customers have been puzzled by sudden crashes not crashes from the cruise flight levels but ones of a technical nature. After all, every animated object has to be calculated dozens of times per second light incidence, reflections, shadows. My experience with real world autopilots has been consistently good and definitely on the level of simulator autopilots if I may make the comparison in the reverse direction for once. This means it is certainly worth your time to take a look at an up-to-date manual. What this means in practice is evident to the customer the first time they load the 737. With this present product, however, the shadows are very few and far between. Which of the implementations conveys the most realistic feeling of space? I dont know. Look for "Edit Post Signature." Max landing altitude is 8400. So in that respect there is not really a lot that is innovative. You never have the feeling that something might not be right. To be sure, the NGX sets new standards in a few areas that all future aircraft will need to be measured by but it also does have its flaws, even if they only marginally impact the overall impression. A negative point that I noticed and again this applies to my multi-screen 2D environment is the fact that various sounds drop out when the focus switches from the main screen to one of the auxiliary screens. In this respect, the NGX is a new benchmark by which many future developers as well as future alternatives to FSX as a platform will be measured. There is no perfect add-on! Review : SXAirportDesign El Paso International Airport P3D5, Review : RFscenerybuilding Brussels South Charleroi International Airport P3D5, Review : Pro Flight Trainer PUMA X and Flight Sim Coach experience with MSFS, MLD Scenery LRIA Iasi Announced for MSFS, Configuration of the aircraft from the cockpit without a restart, Crash to desktop (CTD) on some systems (see PMDG support forum). You have duel bleed trip off and ZERO duct pressure therefore not pressurizing. PMDG enable their customers to equip their aircraft as they please the real aircraft is available in different configurations, and the same is possible in the simulator. Stefan, can this complexity actually be operated well? After all, this is an add-on that has been awaited for a very long time, with the focus of interest lying on the desire for a realistic implementation of the real aircraft. Along with the advice above, may I recommend Emi's YouTube channel, which is a wealth of great information on everything 737. Special mention should be given to the lighting of the exterior model: The position lights that reflect of the ground just look great! That this is also the case here is an absolutely positive indication for me that the aerodynamic fundamentals have been implemented realistically. There is an amusing aspect to the image update of the NGX in the external view. But an expert in the sense of the question you certainly dont have to be that. All of this at unbelievably high prices but this is an indulgence die-hard 737 simmers will grant themselves. Ok thanks, now I know where to look. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. Once you have internalized the concept, you can conveniently operate the NGX to its full extent without any major investments in home cockpit hardware. It is the same loud noise as the beep alarm that sounds when you aren't in takeoff configuration. Simply ignoring the alarm will lead to an almost certain crash, as shown by flight Helios 522, which never pressurised and crashed due to fuel exhaustion. The directive applies to 9,315 Boeing 737 planes worldwide, including around 2,500 in the US. I, too, was affected by this on several online test flights. The order makes mandatory a recommendation that Boeing issued to customers last month. Please be courteous, English is not my primary language. is there a tutorial on how to set this correctly and not get the annoying alarm? And this is a good thing after all, there are already more than enough other freeware and payware options for novices .This is not a game, this is a simulation of a working environment. Holger: Oski will be more familiar with the acoustic environment than us after all, he is much more familiar with the sound from the front left seat. But I do know a number of autopilots of other airliners that have precisely this problem. I say this because if the 2D FMC is on a secondary screen, you cannot use keyboard entry you can neither use the tab key nor activate the input line in the scratch pad. Thanks. I had something similar happen today, it was a pressurization problem. Forums. To me, the acoustic environment in the cockpit is tightly woven and convincing. Its available on the developers own store and Orbx Central for $28.95 and comes with the following features. as well as other partner offers and accept our. Here, again, the fact is that we are not sitting in a Level D simulator but in front of a screen and those are two principally different worlds. The assessment of the flight envelope as a whole, however, delivers a very good result in my opinion. 3 0 obj Yes, MLD Scenery develops payware products for sale at SIMMARKET https://secure.simmarket.com/mld-sc, when is this gonna be launched, it is gonna cost money? What is essential to me as a lay person is the overall atmosphere, and that is definitely believable. If this is your first visit, be sure to stream Look for "Edit Post Signature." You've got a bleed trip off annunciation. I have good frame rates (20+ for instance at Mega-Airport Zrich) when in the VC and even better frame rates (30+) with the 2D panels. And of course there are also pilots such as Oski who have not experienced a single CTD to date. There is a 12,000 foot mod. Better solutions to this are possible, as A2A, for example, have demonstrated strikingly with their sound system. In addition to the performance problems on older systems, which were to be expected, there were also reports of inexplicable crashes CTDs and freezes. Holger: Oski, we really expect an exact systems simulation from PMDG. Youre completely right. You should welcome the existence of a 2D panel, I assume? Incandescent and LED lighting packages, as well as fully dimming flight deck lights and annunciators. Are there any operations that can only be performed in the 2D panel? Information Developer: Precision Manuals Development Group, PMDG Distributor: PMDG Home page:http://www.precisionmanuals.com/ Price: 69,99 US $, available through PMDG, Authors: Oskar Oski Wagner Dr. Stefan Benzinger Holger Kistermann. You may have to register before you can post: click the register Very informative review. Stefan: A few months ago I treated myself to a new computer because I finally wanted to max out FSX and be prepared for products like the PMDG 737NG. The following image shows an example of this that occurred with the SID RWY 28 ZUE 1V in LSZH. Do this by clicking the username pull-down at the top right, then selecting "User Settings." By the way, practically all adjustments are made via the Flight Management Computer and take immediate effect without having to restart the simulator. OP is talking about a warning horn that sounds continuously. Holger: Nick Collett from Angle of Attack has published a walkaround through the virtual cockpit on Vimeo that shows not only design-specific details but also introduces some of the systems. I have to say, though, that I dont have any real aircraft experience to compare to, nor do I have the time to climb into one of the fixed-based simulators in my vicinity. !v2c6a=`JK\"@ O)g]BjesUb*P8z:^PHoFs\m)?)ne'k&! %PDF-1.5 PMDG obviously did not want to expose themselves on this flank, which is why the add-on contains a balanced mixture of detail and functionality, without losing itself in resource-hungry bling-bling a la CaptainSim. From the extension of the flaps to the wing flex on takeoff! On the one hand, the specific sound system has a strong influence. I suppose a cockpit is anything but a quiet place. Here's an adaptation of a two pilot job for the sim: 1. CRZ alt and DES alt was set correctly in the pressurization panel so what else should I be checking? Edit: page 31 of the introduction PDF I turned off the autopilot, but I cant silence the alarm. I have the same issue and cant figure it out either. Oski: I hope it wasnt me who made that claim. Did you set your cruise altitude on the overhead? By default its at 10,000 and if your cruise level is going to be 35,000 feet for example you need Or if the FMC crashes completely because sloppily programmed clickspots cause me to flip the wrong switch on the overhead and power down the flight computers? To guarantee some ahhhs and ohhhs from the FSX community, PMDG has collaborated closely with Boeing. I fly using TrackIR, and I dont need the 2D panel at all. No requests for older versions of an add-on, this is pointless almost always due to new features/fixes. You took the time to be here, we want to get to know you. Airlines have been told to inspect 2 pressure switches on Boeing 737s over concerns they could fail. Some of these crashes are even accompanied by a blue screen. Maybe I was just unlucky and happened upon one of these very few flaws. All new models, entirely new textures, a completely new sound environment and tens of thousands of changes, adaptations, improvements and fixes, the PMDG 737-900 is the ultimate realization of flight simulation, forty years in the making. Out of these cookies, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. It can also happen that you experience lockups if you tweak the routing too much in flight.